Using Your Religion For Profit Is Bullshit!
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admin on Aug. 6, 2008.
Now I’ll be one of the first to sign the petition to remove McDonald’s from our town. I don’t like how they portion their meals and lead us to believe it is real food. But this post isn’t about that.
Two Dearborn, Michigan women are suing McDonald’s for religious discrimination. On first blush it would seem they have a valid case. Apparently, the manager at this franchise told them that they couldn’t wear their hajib if they were to be hired. This rubbed the women the wrong way, and as is becoming the American way, they’ve filed a lawsuit.
Let’s back up a bit. They weren’t turned down for employment. While it was a bit insensitive of the manager to make these statements, he didn’t tell them he wouldn’t hire them.
McDonalds, like most fast food restaurants, has a uniform. Also, health codes would have to be considered. So, it isn’t unreasonable to think that an employee would dress as required. Thus we do have a conflict of requirements.
Where I call bullshit is that these women didn’t approach the management from a reasonable standpoint. They jumped into a lawsuit. Why? If they really wanted to work, wouldn’t they make a single call to the franchise management?
I think the picture tells the story. This is about extracting as many of those “muslim dollars” as they can without bothering to show up for work. Sorry ladies, but that is bullshit. Find another fast food restaurant to work at.
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19 Responses to “Using Your Religion For Profit Is Bullshit!”
The land of the lawsuit! This actually does seem like religious discrimination. The hajib does not have to look like the one the lady on the left wears, it just has to cover their hair. Having hair covered is actually better for health issues in a restaurant.
Like you, I call bullshit is that these women didn’t approach the management to say what I just did. What, 50 words to state a case?
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Richard McLaughlin (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
pathetic.
hope their allah open those two ladies mind.. what they do is wrong. LoL
muslim always act like terrorist
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unknown (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
If people can suit McDo for gettng fat and for burning their skin with ‘hot choco’ why these women cannot?
It is all money these days dude, and if you have thick face, it doesnt matter…as long as there is a thic wad of banknotes then people can do anything.. it is too obvious enough, others are just discreet about it.. you know.
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webbiestuffs (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
What a crock of sh*t!!! Don’t you have enough money with the welfare checks and no tax for 10 years for being brought into this country…kiss my ass
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Fennster (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
@unknown: just thought i’d point out that the hot coffee lawsuit was a *legitimate* lawsuit, mcdonalds kept their coffee a good 20-something degrees higher than any other place does, knowing full well it can burn. they’d settled out of court for medical costs in plenty of other burn cases, it’s obvious they knew it was a burn hazard, and the plaintiff only sued when they refused to cover her (considerable) medical bills.
she didn’t win any substantial amount of money - a second judge (rightfully so) reduced the amount, IIRC she received about $600k in the end.
suing for *scalding* coffee isn’t bullshit. suing for being fat, and suing because your religion doesn’t allow you to meet the workplace’s dress codes is bullshit.
what’s next, someone wants to work as a swimsuit model while wearing hijab that covers everything head to toe but their eyes, and sues when they get turned down?
i don’t understand when bending to a religion became a necessity in western countries. if i ran a music store, would i have to remove all metal with any reference to satan to appease a devout christian who wants to work for me? no, and if your religion prevents you from working at a particular establishment, that’s your problem not the employer’s.
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fwaggle (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
Makes me proud of my status as a “recovering lawyer” rather than an “active” one.
What a bunch of crap…
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Ethan Nobles (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
I have a friend who is African Muslim. And pretty devout. She worked at McDonald’s. She doesn’t wear a hajib (and never has) but she knew when she took the job that she would not be allowed to stop whenever she wanted during her shifts to say her ritual prayers.
Religious tolerance is one thing, religious blackmail is what has historically led far too many countries into warfare.
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lala (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
It makes me sick to read stuff like this. Guess what? Simply pathetic. THEY HAVE A UNIFORM and ALL employees have to wear it. The uniform isn’t a personal attack on your religion, it is simply a uniform. In fact any company that has a strict uniform code would probably say the same thing. What about FEDex and UPS. You probably can’t wear your Hadji head covering there either.
I’m adding this one to my list of “press 1 for English” pet peeves.
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BigPappa (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
unkown “muslim always act like terrorist”
way to be ignorant, maybe that’s why you didn’t post your name.
@Ethan
There is not one right way to practice Islam, just like christianity, everyone has their different ways.
I do call this lawsuit Bullshit
BUT
I also call out that ALL COMMENTS THAT’S BEEN MADE BULLSHIT AS WELL.
(except for Richard, he made a good point)
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nhuong (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
yeah, i smell the bullshit. it was quite a leap to go from what the mgr told them to filing a lawsuit. there seemed to be plenty of room for compromise if these ladies truly wanted to work. like RM said, the hajib just has to cover the hair, which would give you myriad options.
bullshit!
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Blaine Fridley (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
It looks like they were just looking for a way to make money for doing nothing. I bet that that had no intension of corforming to the dress code.
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Mike Golch (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
Just can’t say I am surprised by this in today’s world, but I am sort of shocked about it being a religion issue.
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Mack (Who am I?) on Aug 6, 2008
@Fennster, sorry dude the McD’s hot coffee was a crock. McD’s did not want to pay her because she was driving with a coffee cup between her legs. She was a regular so she knew the coffee was hot and she burned herself because she couldn’t drive to save her life (leading into women drivers jokes).
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Richard McLaughlin (Who am I?) on Aug 7, 2008
what exacly do you mean by “extracting muslim dollars”?
I don’t think you needed to bring deragatory religious comments in to make your point -
The point should just be frivolous lawsuits.
here are some examples of non-muslim, idiotic lawsuits from legalzoom.com:
In September 1988, two Akron, Ohio-based carpet layers named Gordon Falker and Gregory Roach were severely burned when a three and a half gallon container of carpet adhesive ignited when the hot water heater it was sitting next to kicked on. Both men felt the warning label on the back of the can was insufficient. Words like “flammable” and “keep away from heat” didn’t prepare them for the explosion. They filed suit against the adhesive manufacturers, Para-Chem. A jury obviously agreed since the men were awarded $8 million for their troubles.
In 1992, 23-year old Karen Norman accidentally backed her car into Galveston Bay after a night of drinking. Norman couldn’t operate her seat belt and drowned. Her passenger managed to disengage herself and make it to shore. Norman ’s parents sued Honda for making a seat belt their drunken daughter (her blood alcohol level was .17 – nearly twice the legal limit) couldn’t open underwater. A jury found Honda seventy-five percent responsible for Karen’s death and awarded the Norman family $65 million. An appeals court threw out the case.
In May 2003, Stephen Joseph of San Francisco sued Kraft foods for putting trans-fat in their Oreo cookies. Joseph wanted an injunction to order Kraft to stop selling Oreos to children. Once the media caught wind of Joseph’s lawsuit, the media blitz became too much for him to handle. He decided to drop the suit.
In 1997, Larry Harris of Illinois broke into a bar owned by Jessie Ingram. Ingram, the victim of several break-ins, had recently set a trap around his windows to deter potential burglars. Harris, 37, who was under the influence of both alcohol and drugs, must have missed the warning sign prominently displayed in the window. He set off the trap as he entered the window, electrocuting himself. The police refused to file murder charges. Harris’s family saw it differently, however, and filed a civil suit against Ingram. A jury originally awarded the Harris family $150,000. Later, the award was reduced to $75,000 when it was decided Harris should share at least half of the blame.
In 1991, Richard Harris sued Anheiser-Busch for $10,000 for false advertising. Harris (no relation to the above-mentioned burglar) claimed to suffer from emotional distress in addition to mental and physical injury. Why? Because when he drank beer, he didn’t have any luck with the ladies, as promised in the TV ads. Harris also didn’t like that he got sick sometimes after he drank. The case was thrown out of court.
In 1998, Kellogg sued Exxon because customers might confuse the gas station’s “whimsical tiger logo” with Kellogg’s mascot, “Tony the Tiger.” It didn’t matter, of course, that Exxon had already been using this logo for 30 years. A federal court tossed the suit. Kellogg appealed the case claiming the Exxon tiger walks and acts just like Kellogg’s “Tony.”
In 2003, Richard Schick sued his former employer, the Illinois Department of Public Aid. Schick sought $5 million plus $166,700 in back pay for sexual and disability discrimination. In fact, Shick was so stressed by this discrimination that he robbed a convenience store with a shotgun. A jury felt his pain and awarded him the money he was seeking. The decision was then reversed. Unfortunately, the $303,830 he was still awarded isn’t doing him much good during the ten years he’s serving for armed robbery.
In 1995, Robert Lee Brock, a Virginia prison inmate, decided to take a new approach to the legal system. After filing a number of unsuccessful lawsuits against the prison system, Brock sued himself. He claimed his civil rights and religious beliefs were violated when he allowed himself to get drunk. After all, it was inebriation that created his cycle of committing crimes and being incarcerated. He demanded $5 million from himself. However, since he didn’t earn an income behind bars, he felt the state should pay. Needless to say, the case was thrown out.
In 1996, Florida physical therapist Paul Shimkonis sued his local nudie bar claiming whiplash from a lap dancer’s large breasts. Shimkonis felt he suffered physical harm and mental anguish from the breasts, which he claimed felt like “cement blocks” hitting him. Shimkonis sought justice in the amount of $15,000, which was denied.
Reading about these cases often induces more chuckles than seriousness. Their mere existence proves that Ripley’s Believe It or Not applies to the legal world too. And the one about the Winnebago driver? That is just an urban legend.
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Sheila Sultani (Who am I?) on Aug 7, 2008
@Richard McL - the McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit wasn’t bullshit, actually. She was an elderly woman who was a passenger, not the driver (her adult son was driving the car) - and she suffered second and third degree burns on her vaginal area - very nasty pictures, apparently.
I’m glad the award was reduced, but the suit wasn’t BS at all - that particular McDonald’s hadn’t reduced the temperature of their coffee and, at THAT time (not now), they didn’t put the appropriate warning labels on the cups.
Believe me, I had your ‘tude until I read a very detailed story about this case in American Lawyer which helped explain why a jury (not just one person) originally decided in this woman’s favor.
Of course, by now, it’s become the stuff of legends and the facts have gotten way lost.
My 2 cents of bullshit -
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Laura (Who am I?) on Aug 7, 2008
why take it so seriously..?
in Indonesia, all muslim women worker can wearing hijab, all worker can wear their religion symbol.
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torasham (Who am I?) on Aug 7, 2008
Torasham - first..this is not Indonesia. This is America and in America we have uniform dress codes and the hijab (which is not a mandatory requirement to be worn by the women of Islam) is not part of any uniform. If they really wanted to work, the would take it off.
This is most definitely a bullshit lawsuit.
Regarding McD’s coffee lawsuit..it was bullshit. What freakin idiot would EVER in their right mind put a cup of hot coffee in their lap? Secondly, what freakin idiot needs a warning label on their coffee to know that it’s hot? That’s like putting a warning label on a gun that says, don’t point this at yourself and pull the trigger.
By The BoBo on Aug 7, 2008
What is more sanitary about a McD’s uniform than their hijib? If it’s in their religion to wear it and McD’s says they can’t wear it, then they are in their right to sue.
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Regarding the coffee lawsuit, that guy suffered really bad burns from the coffee.
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An American in France (Who am I?) on Aug 8, 2008
You’re right. It’s absolute bullshit. As was the lawsuit where the lady sued for spilling hot coffee on herself at a McDonald’s. It’s all frivolous crap.
This is America. Those ladies don’t have to work for McDonald’s. This incident kinda reminds me of those people who are offended by certain TV programs and write articles in magazines about banning them. If you don’t like the show, turn the damn channel.
Same goes for these ladies. They know what a McDonald’s uniform looks like. By that logic, I’m guessing a Catholic priest could sue Burger King because they wouldn’t let him wear his funky church robes to work….
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